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Beyond
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 Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Message Duration |
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| Hi, I'm wanted to ask someone what a good message duration time was. Can a 10 milisecond message actually be picked up by the subconcious when it can barely be seen? Just wondering what other people were using. Thanks. |
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LixiPixi
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| Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, 10 ms is the ideal setting. The object is to let your subconcious do all the work. If you have a higher setting that is actually visible to your concious level, that ends up defeating the purpose and the success of "subliminal" messages.
I let mine run at 10 ms and even when I'm not actually using my computer, my periphial vision is seeing it. I've noticed a great improvement in just 2 days of usage.
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Beyond
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Really? So it actually works even though I'm not able to see it at a concious level? That's actually my question, I mean if I don't see it when I'm concentrating hard, will my brain still be able to pick up the message. I don't doubt our brains can pick up that extraordinary amount of information, but can our eyes capture that kind of frame rate? |
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LixiPixi
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | So it actually works even though I'm not able to see it at a concious level? |
Yes it does  Your eyes are not supposed to see the messages. If they do, that makes it a conscious effort, which isn't nearly as effective, if at all.
Just forget all about the fact that the messages are running. Do your normal thing on the computer and your subconscious will do the rest.
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Beyond
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Ok, I was just worried that the eyes wouldn't see it. But you have a good point. Let me give it a try and see if I see any inprvement. |
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Beyond
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| Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| Hey will it work for the duration if I enter in my own time or will it only work with the times that are preset in the pull down menu? |
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justgreat
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| I personally prefer the 10ms. I've read that the less your conscious mind is involved the better because your conscious mind may rationalize the suggestion. For example, if a suggestions reads "I am slim" and your conscious mind may read and interprets the message as false, thus your attempt at programming your subconscious mind may not be as effective. |
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chaz
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| Quote: | | Perhaps the most famous and controversial experiment was performed by researcher Dr James Vicary. He flashed the messages "I want popcorn" and "Drink more coke" for just 100-milliseconds in front of a movie audience. Nobody "saw" the messages, but during that sitting popcorn sales shot up 57.8%. |
It is said Nobody "saw" the message.
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DMighty
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| Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Message Duration |
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| Beyond wrote: | | Hi, I'm wanted to ask someone what a good message duration time was. Can a 10 milisecond message actually be picked up by the subconcious when it can barely be seen? Just wondering what other people were using. Thanks. |
If I am freely to give my opinion this is what I am going to say. In order that the subconscious mind will be able to receive what ever message coming from out side the body the conscious mind first must understand what it is. Whether its by vision or by audio. By Audio the best concrete example is the hypnotic suggestion. The subject is put to sleep so that the clear suggestion will by pass the conscious mind & go directly to the subconscious.(e.g.The suggestion to hate the cigarette will greatly affect the subject.) The principle has no difference for the visual like in the SF. First the conscious mind must understand what it sees or else it can not interpret then there will be no clear message sent to the subconscious. I strongly believe that the message being sent must be constantly posted in the conscious mind so that some of it will sink into the sub-con & will retain there forever & give its effect. But most of time it will be hard to pass it into the sub-con that is why there is a need to use the Brain stimulator to make it faster.
The Flashing time I use is 80 ms so the it will not be too slow but unfortunately it is too fast for the sentence that have more than 4 words.
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LindaG
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LixiPixi -
I find it very exciting that you're experiencing good results. Without getting into what you're directing your messages toward, are you actually achieving the goals you set out for?
Just interested....
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| Idea behind subliminal flash is to bypass conscious mind and deliver the message directly to subconscious mind which constitutes the larger portion of the brain and is more powerful than conscious mind. so I think 10ms works the best. |
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Computerman
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| Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Perhaps the most famous and controversial experiment was performed by researcher Dr James Vicary. He flashed the messages "I want popcorn" and "Drink more coke" for just 100-milliseconds in front of a movie audience. Nobody "saw" the messages, but during that sitting popcorn sales shot up 57.8%. |
That "experiment" was later admitted to be a fraud. |
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chaz
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| Computerman wrote: | | Quote: | | Perhaps the most famous and controversial experiment was performed by researcher Dr James Vicary. He flashed the messages "I want popcorn" and "Drink more coke" for just 100-milliseconds in front of a movie audience. Nobody "saw" the messages, but during that sitting popcorn sales shot up 57.8%. |
That "experiment" was later admitted to be a fraud. |
I checked about this. I just realised it was lie. Just found this, at wikipedia (as of post time).
| Quote: | | However, in 1962 Vicary admitted to lying about the experiment and falsifying the results, the story itself being a marketing ploy.[9][10] An identical experiment conducted by Dr. Henry Link showed no increase in cola or popcorn sales.[8] A trip to Fort Lee, where the first experiment was alleged to have taken place, would have shown straight away that the small cinema there couldn't possibly have had 45,699 visitors through its doors in the space of 6 weeks. This has led people to believe that Vicary actually did not conduct his experiment at all.[8] |
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