[AZA_KTA]

FOR SOME REASON LOTS OF PEOPLE SEEM TO BE CONFUSED ABOUT WHAT INTELIGENCE IS. IT IS COMPRISED OF: INDUCTIVE REASONING ABILITY, DEDUCTIVE REASONING ABILTIY, RETAINITVE ABILITY, AND TRANSFORMITIVE REASONING ABILITY.

[AZA_KTA]

INDUCTIVE REASONING IS THE ABILITY TO COME UP WITH IDEAS. THE ABILITY TO USE INFORMATION YOU HAVE LEARNED IN THE PAST AND APPLY IT TO A NOVEL SITUATION.

[AZA_KTA]

DEDUCTIVE REASONING IS THE ABILTIY LOGICALLY ELIMINATE THINGS THAT ARE WRONG TO COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

[AZA_KTA]

RETAINITIVE ABILTIY IS THE ABILITY TO KEEP THE RULES SOMETHING MUST FOLLOW IN YOUR HEAD WHILE YOU THINK ABOUT THE ANSWER.

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TRANSFOMATIVE ABILITY IS THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND HOW SOMETHING WORKS.

[winterwolf64]

It appears to me that no one can accurately define intelligence. Intelligence is, in many ways defined by the society we live in. In some societies interpersonal skills are really important while in some seafaring nations, navigational ability ranks very highly. Intelligence as such is a function of what is considered useful in the given context. It does not and cannot have a universally applicable definition. Moreover, even if some standards were agreed upon, who is to say that these standards completely embody intelligence. Surely a person's intellect cannot be reduced so easily.

In any case, I'm probably wasting my time replying to you. It is clear by the length, articulation and number of your posts that your sole aim is to increase your post count. Was there really a need to make a separate post for each of your criterions?

BTW: Try not to use words you don't understand. Look up inductive and deductive reasoning.

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[winterwolf64]

I'm not trying to be deep or mysterious; I believe in simplicity as much as possible. I just want the truth. Intelligence isn't regarded in the same way everywhere in the world. People who have studied it better than you or I have come to this conclusion.

Of course, how fast one learns and one's ability to comprehend the world are components of intelligence in any society. However, this is a meaningless definition. It is far too general to be of practical use. For example, one's ability to comprehend the world needs to be broken down as the ability to understand social relations, navigational information, music, abstract math, etc. When it is broken down, different societies put emphasis on different aspects. This shouldn't be surprising. After all, we don't all live in the same environment and thus the environment doesn't demand the same out of everyone. Our "worlds" are not the same so our ability to comprehend them will lie in different areas. In a hunting and foraging society, intelligence may rest more on body control and preciseness. On the other hand, in the US, this kind of intelligence is not as necessary (except in sports) and being able to understand abstract information is valued more.

[AZA_KTA]

Your completely missing the point... according to what you have said, you must think that the definition of intelligence is "whatever qualities are valued by the soceity that you live in"... intelligence is simply what I have said over and over. Im not saying that intelligence is the most important quality for every single situation, what im saying is that there are different qualities that work better for different situations and just like you can come up with a definition for body control you can come up with one for intelligence, SO DONT TRY TO SAY THAT BODY CONTROL IS THE SAME AS INTELLIGENCE, ITS NOT... BODY CONTROL IS A SEPRATE ABILTIY. Saying someone is intelligent is similar to saying someone is coordinated, they are words used to describe certain traits and abilities that someone has. Just like you can come up with certain critera for what an highly coordinated indivual is able to do... you can come up with critera for what a highly inteligent individual is able to do. Coordinated people are able to control their bodys well, Intelligent people are able to solve problems well.

[averydaresu]

OK, your definition of intelligence is helpful but do you think the the INDUCTIVE REASONING ABILITY, DEDUCTIVE REASONING ABILTIY, RETAINITVE ABILITY, AND TRANSFORMITIVE REASONING ABILITY can actually be increased? I can see where one could increase their inductive reasoning skill but can you really increase your ability (which I'm understanding as "capacity" or "potential")? In the example of body control (coordination), don't we have a genetic limit to how coordinated we can become which may differ from human being to human being? While my skill level of body control may increase and I may never reach my genetic limit is there not indeed a limit I'm born with which I cannot increase? Just wondering...
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Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. A. Einstein

[winterwolf64]

Yes, we all have our genetic limits. Not everyone can be a body builder, even with steroids. The same is true for intelligence. Just as our short term memory can hold 7 items plus or minus two, our brains have other genetic limits. We can improve over our current performance, but not by much. An average Joe will never become have Einstein's mental prowess no matter how hard he works.

[AZA_KTA]

bv

[winterwolf64]

I would like to see the proof. Especially for creatine.

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[winterwolf64]

Yeah, I did look it up, and it does seem to improve memory. However, I'm not convinced that it is safe for long term use. Even assuming it is safe, there seem to be questions of purity surrounding many of the large producers. See http://www.man-health-magazine-online.com/creatine-dangers.html What do you think?